[Jeff Probst]

This is Ryan's Final Tribal Council Thread.

All other Jurors should remain in their own threads. Final 3, remember... this is not for you to address each other, but to talk to Ryan. In-fighting amongst the Final 3 should be reserved for the Live Final Tribal Council on Sunday.

Ryan, you have until Saturday at 8c/9e to post your statements/questions to the Final 3. Remember not to take up too much of their time as they have 10 other jurors to get to. Please no listing or questions requiring novels for answers. You can ask more questions after the final 3 have answered if you truly do not have enough information, but remember... there is a live Final Council on Sunday where you will get to address everyone live with statements they have made.

[Ryan]

Hey y'all! I haven't really though about what I want to say, but I wanted to get it out there ASAP.

CONGRATS!!! It ain't easy making the final 3 so seriously you all should be proud. Even if some people are labeling you a "goat" and think you had an easy path to the end, I'm sure at some point they all contemplated voting the "goat" out to increase their chances in the end. No one was handed final 3. I also want you guys to know that people can be vicious. I've been there where everyone in the game hates you and talks shit about you and constantly tells you your game sucks. Twice actually. I know it really really sucks. My only advice would be, screw them. Be proud of yourself and don't let anyone ruin your day, otherwise they win.

Now that doesn't mean I'm gonna tell all y'all that you played amazing games and spout nothing but sunshine and roses. This is a game and as a jury member I feel obligated to critique it. But that's all I'm critiquing. I genuinely like all of you, so please don't take any of it personally.

Lucy
I think I respect your game a lot more than most people. You made relationships with the right people, weren't afraid to slit each of their throats. Although we weren't the closest and maybe you don't like me that much, I like how you handled everyone else. You had everyone else in the game just slurping whatever you were serving right up. And I think most importantly, you owned your moves and yourself and how you were playing. You purposefully told everyone you've played a lot and won before, and that you don't like the whole "loyal till I die" crap. As much as you lied, you were honest. I appreciate that. Obviously I don't like the way the game turned out and the fact that you were all playing me, but I can at least see your reasoning for it.

And since this is my thread I feel like I'm allowed to talk more about myself. Did you honestly think I had the idol when you voted me out? You kept nagging me and telling me you think I have the idol and that you were pissed I wasn't telling you. Was that all an act or did you actually think I had it? To me it felt like someone was planting that seed in your brain and you just ate that crap right up. Manipulated.

Adam/Zeke
I feel like you two have made so many mistakes in the game. Let's hit what I think are y'alls two major, fatal flaws:

1.) I am addressing both of you at the same time. Y'all failed to make yourselves distinct from one another. Did it ever occur to you that this would happen? You play an entire game together and anything one did, the other did as well. Both of you made a final 3 with me. Both of you made a final 3 with Lucy. Both of you made a final 3 with Lydia. Like you had to have seen that that wasn't good gameplay?

2.) Y'all were playing to get to the end, not to win. This first part of this is that on a game level, y'all took two people back to back that were completely looking out for you. It makes zero sense to me why you would jump ship like that when the numbers were so close. It's as if y'all were just willing to vote anywhere if it meant you would survive that one vote. There was no long-term thinking.

The second part is that I feel terrible about how y'all turned on me and Gary. I had your backs entirely and Gary wanted to work with you cause he felt like he needed y'all. The merge vote was probably gonna be one of you if I didn't blow shit up. I knew that. I didn't want either of you to get picked off cause I would have felt shitty for not standing up for my allies and it would have meant I was just next in the pecking order. I took a risk knowing that it would mean either I was going or Dale was going. And I feel like neither of you appreciated that even the slightest. So yea I'm hurt.

My questions: What was the reasoning for voting me and Gary out? Why did you not feel it was best to make a stand? And why on Earth would you make a final 3 deal with me just before voting me off. That's terrible jury management.

[Zeke]

Adam/Zeke
I feel like you two have made so many mistakes in the game. Let's hit what I think are y'alls two major, fatal flaws:

1.) I am addressing both of you at the same time. Y'all failed to make yourselves distinct from one another. Did it ever occur to you that this would happen? You play an entire game together and anything one did, the other did as well. Both of you made a final 3 with me. Both of you made a final 3 with Lucy. Both of you made a final 3 with Lydia. Like you had to have seen that that wasn't good gameplay?

2.) Y'all were playing to get to the end, not to win. This first part of this is that on a game level, y'all took two people back to back that were completely looking out for you. It makes zero sense to me why you would jump ship like that when the numbers were so close. It's as if y'all were just willing to vote anywhere if it meant you would survive that one vote. There was no long-term thinking.

The second part is that I feel terrible about how y'all turned on me and Gary. I had your backs entirely and Gary wanted to work with you cause he felt like he needed y'all. The merge vote was probably gonna be one of you if I didn't blow shit up. I knew that. I didn't want either of you to get picked off cause I would have felt shitty for not standing up for my allies and it would have meant I was just next in the pecking order. I took a risk knowing that it would mean either I was going or Dale was going. And I feel like neither of you appreciated that even the slightest. So yea I'm hurt.

My questions: What was the reasoning for voting me and Gary out? Why did you not feel it was best to make a stand? And why on Earth would you make a final 3 deal with me just before voting me off. That's terrible jury management.

Hello Ryan!

I just would like to say, thank you for the wonderful advice that you have given me! It really means a lot and I really do feel that you've said a lot that I absolutely agree with on many different things!

To your first flaw. I do have to say that I wasn't 100% trusting Lydia on the Final 3 because I knew for a fact that if I went with Lydia. Lydia would have had the whole jury on her side and we just would have been seen as just goats and I wasn't completely letting the deal of Lydia/Me and Adam become a thing that could have happened. Plus, that deal happened to me very out of nowhere and I wasn't even told about that until I talked with Adam about that.

As for the second flaw. I don't think that it's true in many cases with what you were say about that there was no long term thinking. I did have some awareness about how this could have looked in the long term and I didn't just do that move only to fit in with the most of the group. I was just thinking about this could turn out for me and if I would have been disconnected from the entire group and deemed untrustworthy.

My reasons were simple. I just felt that you guys would have prefer yourselves as the Final 3 instead of me or Adam for that matter and I felt that I wasn't sure if you guys were gonna intend on sticking with us till the end. Plus, with the rumors that you guys were trying to gun after both me and Adam. I really felt that you guys were just not being honest with us and had you guys told us exactly what you guys have really felt. I think this would have been a different conversation. But we just felt that we just were there as votes for the two of you. And with the Final 3 that I made with you. I take the blame here because I felt that I was a bit too quick on pulling the gun and I just wish I could have held my horses and just simply stick to our normal alliance that the three of us had between you, me and Adam. So, I admit that it was my fault and I take 100% responsibility for that.

[Lucy]

Lucy
I think I respect your game a lot more than most people. You made relationships with the right people, weren't afraid to slit each of their throats. Although we weren't the closest and maybe you don't like me that much, I like how you handled everyone else. You had everyone else in the game just slurping whatever you were serving right up. And I think most importantly, you owned your moves and yourself and how you were playing. You purposefully told everyone you've played a lot and won before, and that you don't like the whole "loyal till I die" crap. As much as you lied, you were honest. I appreciate that. Obviously I don't like the way the game turned out and the fact that you were all playing me, but I can at least see your reasoning for it.

And since this is my thread I feel like I'm allowed to talk more about myself. Did you honestly think I had the idol when you voted me out? You kept nagging me and telling me you think I have the idol and that you were pissed I wasn't telling you. Was that all an act or did you actually think I had it? To me it felt like someone was planting that seed in your brain and you just ate that crap right up. Manipulated.

I definitely thought you had a good chance of finding it because you had played before and had more insight into what the passwords could be.

I thought you had it until Drew tried to tell me that you had it and were playing it. I thought Drew was full of shit and actually used that little conversation to ruin his credibility after tribal council. I assumed Drew had lied to try and get everyone to change there vote off you at the last minute. If Drew was telling the truth- Sorry, but I just always assumed you were lying.

But whether or not you had it didn't really mean that much to me. I obviously told you I was voting you off. You could have had it, played it, and stayed and would have more likely trusted me for being up front with you then the other people who lied to your face. If you having the idol was that important I would have lied to you about how I was voting and would have tried to mislead you in to not playing it.

And in terms of liking you- I do like you. I am sorry if I gave you that impression cause you never wronged me in any way and I actually thought you were really nice. I just thought your strategy was erratic and you walked into the merge making too much noise and that you turned yourself into a bigger target.

[Ryan]

Adam/Zeke
I feel like you two have made so many mistakes in the game. Let's hit what I think are y'alls two major, fatal flaws:

1.) I am addressing both of you at the same time. Y'all failed to make yourselves distinct from one another. Did it ever occur to you that this would happen? You play an entire game together and anything one did, the other did as well. Both of you made a final 3 with me. Both of you made a final 3 with Lucy. Both of you made a final 3 with Lydia. Like you had to have seen that that wasn't good gameplay?

2.) Y'all were playing to get to the end, not to win. This first part of this is that on a game level, y'all took two people back to back that were completely looking out for you. It makes zero sense to me why you would jump ship like that when the numbers were so close. It's as if y'all were just willing to vote anywhere if it meant you would survive that one vote. There was no long-term thinking.

The second part is that I feel terrible about how y'all turned on me and Gary. I had your backs entirely and Gary wanted to work with you cause he felt like he needed y'all. The merge vote was probably gonna be one of you if I didn't blow shit up. I knew that. I didn't want either of you to get picked off cause I would have felt shitty for not standing up for my allies and it would have meant I was just next in the pecking order. I took a risk knowing that it would mean either I was going or Dale was going. And I feel like neither of you appreciated that even the slightest. So yea I'm hurt.

My questions: What was the reasoning for voting me and Gary out? Why did you not feel it was best to make a stand? And why on Earth would you make a final 3 deal with me just before voting me off. That's terrible jury management.

Hello Ryan!

I just would like to say, thank you for the wonderful advice that you have given me! It really means a lot and I really do feel that you've said a lot that I absolutely agree with on many different things!

To your first flaw. I do have to say that I wasn't 100% trusting Lydia on the Final 3 because I knew for a fact that if I went with Lydia. Lydia would have had the whole jury on her side and we just would have been seen as just goats and I wasn't completely letting the deal of Lydia/Me and Adam become a thing that could have happened. Plus, that deal happened to me very out of nowhere and I wasn't even told about that until I talked with Adam about that.

As for the second flaw. I don't think that it's true in many cases with what you were say about that there was no long term thinking. I did have some awareness about how this could have looked in the long term and I didn't just do that move only to fit in with the most of the group. I was just thinking about this could turn out for me and if I would have been disconnected from the entire group and deemed untrustworthy.

My reasons were simple. I just felt that you guys would have prefer yourselves as the Final 3 instead of me or Adam for that matter and I felt that I wasn't sure if you guys were gonna intend on sticking with us till the end. Plus, with the rumors that you guys were trying to gun after both me and Adam. I really felt that you guys were just not being honest with us and had you guys told us exactly what you guys have really felt. I think this would have been a different conversation. But we just felt that we just were there as votes for the two of you. And with the Final 3 that I made with you. I take the blame here because I felt that I was a bit too quick on pulling the gun and I just wish I could have held my horses and just simply stick to our normal alliance that the three of us had between you, me and Adam. So, I admit that it was my fault and I take 100% responsibility for that.

I did tell you exactly what I was feeling and thinking. I told you Chrissy was a threat and I told you I couldn't trust any of those vets and I told you I wanted to take the bullet for you guys and I told you that I had your back entirely. I made a freaking final 3 with you for crying out loud. Like what more do you want me to say?

And please don't talk about "you wouldn't have taken me to final 3" when we were at final 11. Not only is that not true, but it's also the completely wrong time to think like that.

[Lucy]

Just to clarify

If Drew was telling the truth- Sorry, but I just always assumed you were lying. < (I assumed drew was always lying)

[Ryan]

In other news, I'm getting drunk tonight to celebrate Stranded 32! Everyone please join me!

[Adam]

Hey Ryan, we meet again.


1. At the time we talked Ryan I was all down for going to the end with you and working with you. The thing is after you turned on me with the Hannah vote and wrote my name down (I believe twice) I did not feel I could trust you. That day you were voted out you were barely speaking to me and I got mixed signals from you all day. The way I saw it, you were hoping I thought you didn't vote for me at the Gary vote out and yet you were still gonna write my name down at the next tribal which you did. At that point all the vets were against you plus many others did not like you. I built bigger relationships with Dale and Joaquin and knew if I brought Lucy and Zeke in we could work our way to the end and get the numbers on them. I was playing to get to the end and I am sorry if you felt betrayed but it is only because I thought you were against me and did not give me reasons to think differently. The Lydia final three was a thought but Lydia and I despite loving each other were never really going to be able to align and I just felt we couldn't make it happen. Voting her out sucked hard but she had written my name down before and was with the all girls alliance that didn't want me around.

2. To elaborate, Ryan I never felt safe with you. I was hearing all these mixed stories about you and like I said, you were fine writing my name down to save yourself. If you really didn't want me to go then why were you not fighting for me? I honestly did not feel like you were. If I am wrong then I am sorry if I hurt you and mistook several things but I had to do what I had to do to make it to the next level. I did have a end game vision but at times it seemed like I had to focus on the next vote to live for another day.

PS I was 100% down with the final three deal at the start of the merge but then I heard so many different things and after you wrote my name down that night it seemed like a lost cause. This is all truly how I felt and my completely real view.

[Zeke]

Adam/Zeke
I feel like you two have made so many mistakes in the game. Let's hit what I think are y'alls two major, fatal flaws:

1.) I am addressing both of you at the same time. Y'all failed to make yourselves distinct from one another. Did it ever occur to you that this would happen? You play an entire game together and anything one did, the other did as well. Both of you made a final 3 with me. Both of you made a final 3 with Lucy. Both of you made a final 3 with Lydia. Like you had to have seen that that wasn't good gameplay?

2.) Y'all were playing to get to the end, not to win. This first part of this is that on a game level, y'all took two people back to back that were completely looking out for you. It makes zero sense to me why you would jump ship like that when the numbers were so close. It's as if y'all were just willing to vote anywhere if it meant you would survive that one vote. There was no long-term thinking.

The second part is that I feel terrible about how y'all turned on me and Gary. I had your backs entirely and Gary wanted to work with you cause he felt like he needed y'all. The merge vote was probably gonna be one of you if I didn't blow shit up. I knew that. I didn't want either of you to get picked off cause I would have felt shitty for not standing up for my allies and it would have meant I was just next in the pecking order. I took a risk knowing that it would mean either I was going or Dale was going. And I feel like neither of you appreciated that even the slightest. So yea I'm hurt.

My questions: What was the reasoning for voting me and Gary out? Why did you not feel it was best to make a stand? And why on Earth would you make a final 3 deal with me just before voting me off. That's terrible jury management.

Hello Ryan!

I just would like to say, thank you for the wonderful advice that you have given me! It really means a lot and I really do feel that you've said a lot that I absolutely agree with on many different things!

To your first flaw. I do have to say that I wasn't 100% trusting Lydia on the Final 3 because I knew for a fact that if I went with Lydia. Lydia would have had the whole jury on her side and we just would have been seen as just goats and I wasn't completely letting the deal of Lydia/Me and Adam become a thing that could have happened. Plus, that deal happened to me very out of nowhere and I wasn't even told about that until I talked with Adam about that.

As for the second flaw. I don't think that it's true in many cases with what you were say about that there was no long term thinking. I did have some awareness about how this could have looked in the long term and I didn't just do that move only to fit in with the most of the group. I was just thinking about this could turn out for me and if I would have been disconnected from the entire group and deemed untrustworthy.

My reasons were simple. I just felt that you guys would have prefer yourselves as the Final 3 instead of me or Adam for that matter and I felt that I wasn't sure if you guys were gonna intend on sticking with us till the end. Plus, with the rumors that you guys were trying to gun after both me and Adam. I really felt that you guys were just not being honest with us and had you guys told us exactly what you guys have really felt. I think this would have been a different conversation. But we just felt that we just were there as votes for the two of you. And with the Final 3 that I made with you. I take the blame here because I felt that I was a bit too quick on pulling the gun and I just wish I could have held my horses and just simply stick to our normal alliance that the three of us had between you, me and Adam. So, I admit that it was my fault and I take 100% responsibility for that.

I did tell you exactly what I was feeling and thinking. I told you Chrissy was a threat and I told you I couldn't trust any of those vets and I told you I wanted to take the bullet for you guys and I told you that I had your back entirely. I made a freaking final 3 with you for crying out loud. Like what more do you want me to say?

And please don't talk about "you wouldn't have taken me to final 3" when we were at final 11. Not only is that not true, but it's also the completely wrong time to think like that.

I was wrong on that part and looking back at it. I should have absolutely hit myself in the head for that one. But in my defense, it was done because I've heard things that went against with what you were saying and I just didn't knew until now that it was something completely different.

With that type of thinking. I just have to say that I was just too much in my own head and that I constantly thought about every worse scenario, which one more. I do think that I've made a mess with that but only because I was thinking about how I could work through it.

[Ryan]

Hey Ryan, we meet again.


1. At the time we talked Ryan I was all down for going to the end with you and working with you. The thing is after you turned on me with the Hannah vote and wrote my name down (I believe twice) I did not feel I could trust you. That day you were voted out you were barely speaking to me and I got mixed signals from you all day. The way I saw it, you were hoping I thought you didn't vote for me at the Gary vote out and yet you were still gonna write my name down at the next tribal which you did. At that point all the vets were against you plus many others did not like you. I built bigger relationships with Dale and Joaquin and knew if I brought Lucy and Zeke in we could work our way to the end and get the numbers on them. I was playing to get to the end and I am sorry if you felt betrayed but it is only because I thought you were against me and did not give me reasons to think differently. The Lydia final three was a thought but Lydia and I despite loving each other were never really going to be able to align and I just felt we couldn't make it happen. Voting her out sucked hard but she had written my name down before and was with the all girls alliance that didn't want me around.

2. To elaborate, Ryan I never felt safe with you. I was hearing all these mixed stories about you and like I said, you were fine writing my name down to save yourself. If you really didn't want me to go then why were you not fighting for me? I honestly did not feel like you were. If I am wrong then I am sorry if I hurt you and mistook several things but I had to do what I had to do to make it to the next level. I did have a end game vision but at times it seemed like I had to focus on the next vote to live for another day.

PS I was 100% down with the final three deal at the start of the merge but then I heard so many different things and after you wrote my name down that night it seemed like a lost cause. This is all truly how I felt and my completely real view.

I completely took the target off of you by blowing up lol, is that not having your back? It just blows my mind that people still didn't believe me when it was clear that I didn't want to work with those other people and that they were lying about me the whole time.

And I only ever voted for you when it was tied between you and Gary, and then at that last vote when it was clear you and Zeke turned on me and I had to do anything just to survive that vote. I don't know how I could have made it more obvious that I voted Dale that tribal

[Adam]

Well why didnt you tell me that you were doing that to take the target off my back lol If I made you feel that way then im sorry. I just felt like you had turned on me too and thats why I did. I think the thing with you and I was the lack of communication at the end of your game before you left. I had thought you voted Dale but I also knew you were really close with Gary and I thought that you would of wanted him over me. I know we made a final 3 deal but I just wasn't sure about you. Again I apologize if we had miscommunication. I really do.

[Lucy]

In other news, I'm getting drunk tonight to celebrate Stranded 32! Everyone please join me!

I will celebrate by sitting on this Corona bottle with the fucking lime.

[Ryan]

In other news, I'm getting drunk tonight to celebrate Stranded 32! Everyone please join me!

I will celebrate by sitting on this Corona bottle with the fucking lime.

[Lucy]

Loooool

Oh Ryan, what you missed out on once you left.... You didn't get to meet Lucy the whore.

[Lucy]

You've never seen one of those 2 girls 1 cuppy kind of videos where people break bottles in their butts before?

If you haven't... Don't.

There's no going back from that.

[Ryan]

You've never seen one of those 2 girls 1 cuppy kind of videos where people break bottles in their butts before?

If you haven't... Don't.

There's no going back from that.

Please stop