[Jeff Probst]

This is Dale's Final Tribal Council Thread.

All other Jurors should remain in their own threads. Final 3, remember... this is not for you to address each other, but to talk to Dale. In-fighting amongst the Final 3 should be reserved for the Live Final Tribal Council on Sunday.

Dale, you have until Saturday at 8c/9e to post your statements/questions to the Final 3. Remember not to take up too much of their time as they have 10 other jurors to get to. Please no listing or questions requiring novels for answers. You can ask more questions after the final 3 have answered if you truly do not have enough information, but remember... there is a live Final Council on Sunday where you will get to address everyone live with statements they have made.

[Dale]

Alright. Congratulations Final 3! You guys managed to outlast 25 people to make it here, that's pretty impressive, even with all the inactives.

Before I start, I want to let you know that at the time of writing this, I am not exactly sober. I'll also say, my vote *could* be up for grabs, we will see.

As someone that also made a FTC once upon a time, and got completely shit on by the jury, I am not gonna sit here and insult anyone. Losing sucks enough. But with that said, Zeke, I really don't understand what game you thought you were playing? Because the game I saw you playing was following orders from the Queen and reporting back to her like a good little boy. We didn't play together long, but from the short time that we did, it seemed pretty obvious that you were doing whatever Lucy wanted you to do. When I was having my name thrown around by Ryan, Lucy came up to me and said "I will get Adam and Zeke to vote against Ryan and not you.". I didn't really even hear from you about that vote until after you were told what to do. That alone tells me Lucy had you on a leash the entire time. I'm sorry Zeke, but I just cannot see how you'd deserve the win over Lucy, and for that reason I will not be voting for you to win Turks and Caicos.

Adam.

It is a very bad sign to have yourself labeled, not as "Adam" but rather as "Adam and Zeke". Fortunately for you, most people see you as the better half of that pair. So I guess you've got that going for you. Another bad sign is that, basically since my elimination, the game turned into, "which player can take Adam and Zeke to the Final 3?" To be honest, I didn't follow the season as intensely as some of these other jurors after my exit. You claim that at final 8, you had to step your game up and start making moves by working with your rival Drew to take out Caryn. Meanwhile, Lucy claims that she and Drew came up with that plan, and that Drew did most of the work. Now this is either Lucy trying to discredit your only move in the game, or you're making your part out to be a lot bigger than it really was. You also state that lying to Lydia and telling her to vote for Danni so that you could vote out Chrissy was another move. Frankly, simply lying to someone doesn't really go down as "making a move".

I don't really care much about any relationships that you made with anyone. Everyone that isn't Blake probably made relationships with people in the game. So that doesn't really mean much especially when Lucy had better and stronger relationships than you, which is why you were always the decoy vote. People saw you as completely expendable in this game, but Lucy was treated as a necessity to keep around.

My question to you is, do you feel like you are more deserving of a win than Lucy? and if so, point out two flaws in Lucy's game that make her and her game worse than yourself.

Lucy.

You made a lot of moves and cut a lot of people on the way to FTC, and I respect your game. You didn't play a perfect game, and if you were sitting here with Drew or Danni, I would be more inclined not to vote for you. But, instead you dragged two goats to the end. Congrats on accomplishing that. I don't really want to hear about your glorious game or any of that, this was a very boring ending to the season and I think it will greatly hurt the season in memory.

Good job on reaching the end, and I hope you all had fun doing it! Enjoy the $100!

[Lucy]

Thanks Dale.

[Dale]

And no one should have to suck this much cock for 32 days for a hundred bucks. Lets keep in mind that “winner of a season of Stranded” means literally nothing outside of this community so don’t be too heart broken for not winning!

[Dale]

Sorry Adam I should have specified better, I want you to explain what part you had in voting out Caryn and how YOU controlled that outcome and not Drew.

[Adam]

Hello, Dale.

I will say that I went to Drew first and mended our relationship. If Lucy went and suggested they take out the girls than she did but I did the same thing right after we voted you out. I was adamant we start taking out the girls alliance because we straight up had no chance in the finals. I haven't made it out to be bigger than it was because I remember that I was pushing hard for us to make a move. With voting out Caryn, Drew had the inside with the girls alliance as he told me they were vying for his trust again. He did work on that move but for me I feel that if I had not of gone to Drew after Joaquin was voted out and brought that together then we would of all been eaten off by the girls and Lucy would of been at five. Thats what I say and I stand by it.

First flaw with Lucy is that she had too many commitments to everyone. At one point everyone saw Lucy as an ally which I think blew up in her face after the Joaquin and Caryn votes. She had a lot of people angry and mad at her which does not look good with a jury. People were hurt and when you risk peoples feelings and turn on them, you open a door for a bitter jury. That coincides with her second flaw. I feel like she made a big mistake joining the girls alliance as now many have been angry at her about that too. I know people respect her moves and value she had to people but how good is value if its false? Lucy was always committed to Zeke and I but she misled Lucayan into thinking she hated Taino and did not care about us. Yet she was glued to me and loved Zeke as well. It would of been better had she of just chosen her side from the get go and we made a new alliance with others instead of misleading the Lucayans.


I had relationships with people but I was not going to commit to anything unless I felt like you had my back and where I could make moves and stick with it if you were going to stick with me. I never made false alliances and I while I was always willing to listen, I was not going to try to work with you if it was not there. I tried at points and sometimes it worked and sometimes it did not. When I came and we teamed up it helped my game and I was 100% with you.

I hope these answers suffice Dale.

[Adam]

Sorry Adam I should have specified better, I want you to explain what part you had in voting out Caryn and how YOU controlled that outcome and not Drew.

Okay I can explain this better.

I feel like maybe in Chrissy's forum I messed up in explaining my move and I played a bigger role in taking out Chrissy. After Joaquin went and Drew was so upset, I went to him specifically and told him I wanted to clear the air. That opened the door for us to be able to start taking out the girls. My initial target was Danni. I saw her as someone who was playing a clean game and would sweep all the votes. Drew wanted Caryn and while I was hesitant I saw that Caryn was actually in a position where she would slide onto finals and how if we dismissed her then we would regret it later. Not to mention, she had everyone wrapped around her fingers. Drew did put the splitting votes version of this plan into play where I did with Chrissy going but I was the one who got Zeke and Lucy on board. That night Lucy was torn up about voting Caryn and knew she was in trouble if she betrayed the girls. She said she thought she was gonna go the next night but said she was doing it for me because she did not want me to go. I convinced her it was the best thing for her game if we make this move and get Caryn out. Zeke as well, it was because of me why they came into our four. Had I not of been involved we all would of just been fucked. That is how I can explain what I did without sounding like a broken record.


I came to Drew, restored our bond. I DID suggest way ahead of time we take out the girls and pulled in Zeke and Lucy with Drew and he got the votes split between us and we went into motion. I feel I was a core part of bringing it together because I was in the middle with all three and I would of never happened had I not of gone to Drew that night.

P.S. I was never approached by anyone else about making a final three deal besides Lucy and Zeke. Yes I talked with Lydia and Ryan but that was brought up by myself or Zeke. Whether people just did not see me as a threat or expendable is unfortunate but I will do everything I can to explain my game the best as possible and make the points of what I feel I had to do. I knew my best chances were with Lucy and Zeke.

[Zeke]

Zeke, I really don't understand what game you thought you were playing? Because the game I saw you playing was following orders from the Queen and reporting back to her like a good little boy. We didn't play together long, but from the short time that we did, it seemed pretty obvious that you were doing whatever Lucy wanted you to do. When I was having my name thrown around by Ryan, Lucy came up to me and said "I will get Adam and Zeke to vote against Ryan and not you.". I didn't really even hear from you about that vote until after you were told what to do. That alone tells me Lucy had you on a leash the entire time. I'm sorry Zeke, but I just cannot see how you'd deserve the win over Lucy, and for that reason I will not be voting for you to win Turks and Caicos.

Hello Dale!

I absolutely appreciate your honesty. I do not hold whatever you have said against you. I did play a UTR game whether people have seen in or not. I don't agree that I was on anybody's leash and I feel that even hearing that, it's not absolutely true. I had a choice for what I could have done in this game and I did my choice, whether it was the right one or the wrong one. It still was a choice that I was given and I would have rather done that than actually be on other people's leashes. But, I do respect you for what you have said and I appreciate everything that you have said here.

[Dale]

Zeke, I really don't understand what game you thought you were playing? Because the game I saw you playing was following orders from the Queen and reporting back to her like a good little boy. We didn't play together long, but from the short time that we did, it seemed pretty obvious that you were doing whatever Lucy wanted you to do. When I was having my name thrown around by Ryan, Lucy came up to me and said "I will get Adam and Zeke to vote against Ryan and not you.". I didn't really even hear from you about that vote until after you were told what to do. That alone tells me Lucy had you on a leash the entire time. I'm sorry Zeke, but I just cannot see how you'd deserve the win over Lucy, and for that reason I will not be voting for you to win Turks and Caicos.

Hello Dale!

I absolutely appreciate your honesty. I do not hold whatever you have said against you. I did play a UTR game whether people have seen in or not. I don't agree that I was on anybody's leash and I feel that even hearing that, it's not absolutely true. I had a choice for what I could have done in this game and I did my choice, whether it was the right one or the wrong one. It still was a choice that I was given and I would have rather done that than actually be on other people's leashes. But, I do respect you for what you have said and I appreciate everything that you have said here.

Zeke, you played too carefully. I understand being tied to Lucy and Adam at the start of the merge, but at some point you needed to realize that there was no way you can be sitting next to Lucy and Adam at the end. Lucy had the better social and strategic game, and Adam had the better social game. You could have had a shot at my vote if you decided to actually make a move.

Even after Lucy left you out of the Joaq vote, you still ran back to her and gave her an army to continue her way to FTC, rather than stand up and tell her to fuck off. I don't blame you for throwing me under the bus pretty much immediately after Joaq was gone, but I think you could have flipped to Drew or Danni or Caryn's side at least. Even if you flip flopped your way between alliances and was just used as a vote and managed to get to the end that way, I would have respected your game a hell of a lot more.

I think you tried too hard to be "Zeke" rather than just be yourself. Stranded isn't Survivor, you won't get voted out for giving a non PC answer once in a while, or telling someone to fuck themselves. You were too scared to make any sort of move, and people do that all the time and call it a "UTR" game.

For example, nearly EVERYONE thought that you or Adam had the idol. You could have used that to your advantage somehow. Joaq never showed me his idol, but I still believed him when he told me he had it.

But, I think you're an alright guy, and I don't think you deserve all the hate that you're getting. You actually took the time to write out messages and reply to people, even if it felt a bit too try-hard and character-esque, or weird, it's still better than people that give one line replies and have no personality. If you ever play Stranded again, I think you shouldn't be scared to flip on your alliance and look at the game from your own point of view, rather than looking at a path painted by someone else and being strong-armed into following it. Personally, I think it's better to make too many moves and be blindsided than to reach the end as safely as possible.

Take care buddy!

[Dale]

Sorry Adam I should have specified better, I want you to explain what part you had in voting out Caryn and how YOU controlled that outcome and not Drew.

Okay I can explain this better.

I feel like maybe in Chrissy's forum I messed up in explaining my move and I played a bigger role in taking out Chrissy. After Joaquin went and Drew was so upset, I went to him specifically and told him I wanted to clear the air. That opened the door for us to be able to start taking out the girls. My initial target was Danni. I saw her as someone who was playing a clean game and would sweep all the votes. Drew wanted Caryn and while I was hesitant I saw that Caryn was actually in a position where she would slide onto finals and how if we dismissed her then we would regret it later. Not to mention, she had everyone wrapped around her fingers. Drew did put the splitting votes version of this plan into play where I did with Chrissy going but I was the one who got Zeke and Lucy on board. That night Lucy was torn up about voting Caryn and knew she was in trouble if she betrayed the girls. She said she thought she was gonna go the next night but said she was doing it for me because she did not want me to go. I convinced her it was the best thing for her game if we make this move and get Caryn out. Zeke as well, it was because of me why they came into our four. Had I not of been involved we all would of just been fucked. That is how I can explain what I did without sounding like a broken record.


I came to Drew, restored our bond. I DID suggest way ahead of time we take out the girls and pulled in Zeke and Lucy with Drew and he got the votes split between us and we went into motion. I feel I was a core part of bringing it together because I was in the middle with all three and I would of never happened had I not of gone to Drew that night.

P.S. I was never approached by anyone else about making a final three deal besides Lucy and Zeke. Yes I talked with Lydia and Ryan but that was brought up by myself or Zeke. Whether people just did not see me as a threat or expendable is unfortunate but I will do everything I can to explain my game the best as possible and make the points of what I feel I had to do. I knew my best chances were with Lucy and Zeke.

Adam, I think the problem I have with seeing moves you made is that it feels a little like you're re-writing history. A lot of people were able to fool you into doing what they wanted. I've already said this but when I was thinking I was going home, neither you nor Zeke came to me personally and talked any game with me. It wasn't until after Lucy came to me and said "I will get Adam and Zeke to vote with us and take out Ryan" and after *I* brought it up to you that you finally wanted to talk strategy with me.

After Ryan went home, like ten minutes after tribal had ended, you came to me and told me that you wanted to take out Chrissy next, but it didn't take much effort for me to flip that into Danni. Once Joaq went home, I found out that everything I was telling you was being told to Lucy and it just felt like I was talking to Lucy's pawns (you and Zeke) rather than players that wanted to play their own game.

I don't think you were the glue behind the Caryn vote, I think Drew was able to convince Lucy into voting that way and you felt like you had no choice in the matter. Lucy literally flipped on you two votes before and instead of being mad at her, you decided to make up and continue down that road. At that point, you should have seen that you would lose to Lucy at the end because she clearly had more game sense and relationships than yourself. Instead you agreed to have votes split on you AGAIN meanwhile Lucy sat in her throne and watched in safety.

You would have my vote against Zeke and Lydia for example. Because then you could at least say "Zeke was my bitch and he was always more loyal to me than anyone else and I dragged him to the end." Instead, it just feels like you and Zeke were too scared to play the game without Mommy Lucy leading the charge. There's not a single decision that you made that you didn't get approval from Lucy for.

I don't think you played the worst game ever, and I think you had potential in the pre merge to make yourself a power player, but idk what happened once the merge hit. When I told you I would give you my vote if you made it to the end, I didn't think you'd be at the end with Lucy and Zeke, to be honest. I imagined a much different "underdog" run to the end. I think you played too safe and figured that your social game would be enough.

And throwing me under the bus almost instantly after Joaq went home was, in my opinion, a terrible move. I had a couple people telling me they would keep me if I found a way to swing the vote. I was always gonna be a target from that point on and you would have always been safe with me as the shield. And at the end, you could have told the jury how you saved me and I had to do what you wanted.

I was really looking for any solid reason to give you my vote, but I just don't see how I can give someone that had virtually zero power at any point in the merge a vote to win the game.

[Dale]

Thanks Dale.

Alright Lucy, I will address you a bit better. I'm not gonna lie, you had me fooled pretty good. All of that "I would go to final 2 with you and I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass" talk really made me think you would have my back. I'm not gonna sit here and be mad or bitter that you didn't, because it won you the game. I really enjoyed talking to you and I was bummed out that you decided to flip on me. But what I was more bummed out about was the fact that you kept telling me how deeply sorry you were and how you wanted me to stay so so so badly. Yet you had no intention of helping me stay.

I'd rather hear "you're 100% going home" than "Don't worry I have your back I promise" and give me false hope for the whole day that maybe I'd get a name to vote right before tribal. It was unnecessary to do that, seeing as how I had no trust with anyone. There was no way I could have convinced people to vote you out over me. Regardless, you still have my vote, not because you played the best game ever, but because I can't have the final thing I do in Stranded be giving a vote to a goat. I would like to see you play again and see how you play in an underdog position, without having Adam and Zeke giving you 3 votes every tribal.

I still think you're a cool person and hope you the best. Thank you for being a night owl and giving me someone to talk to when the rest of the cast was all sleeping. Made the game a lot less boring for me. Enjoy having the winner badge!