[Jeff Probst]

Alright I get it guys, that you’re mad you got out, and if I truly ruined your game by being inactive I’m sorry. But if we’re being straight up about my game, 1. I wasn’t a goat, I was talking to everyone in the game, and had a good enough standing with the majority that they were willing to keep me in the game as an inactive prevoter than y’all. 2. Gary I never went and said anything about you to anyone. Given that, I didn’t trust you as a vote cause I associated you as a number with Adam zeke and Ryan. 3. Brian I messaged Jeff and asked him to put you in if I couldn’t get WiFi on Monday, cause I felt bad how you went. Prior to the merge I figured I would have WiFi on the cruise and could play but I quickly found out that wasn’t the case. If I knew I would have quit before. People just didn’t like the idea of you rejoining the game, so I prevoted and hoped I would stay. 4 my connection issues early game were shared by a lot of people as the cookies or whatever in browser was blocking people from viewing chat. But this being my first forum survivor I wasn’t used to it and how to fix it. So I don’t think it’s right for you all to get all pissed at me for that.


In the end, I had a blast playing with all of you, and I really would have been happy moving forward with any of you in the game. You may not respect me, but I loved everyone in this game, and the game itself. Shit talk me and my game all you want. I can take it. I think I played a good one and that’s all that matters. Hopefully I can come back again if Jeff views my game the same, and realizes that most of this was out of my control.

I’ll be back Sunday afternoon if you all want to yell at me more then

Lol it's not that serious Jim, don't worry about it XD It's all part of the jury experience. People yell cuz theyre pissed, then they get over it.

[Gary]

Alright I get it guys, that you’re mad you got out, and if I truly ruined your game by being inactive I’m sorry. But if we’re being straight up about my game, 1. I wasn’t a goat, I was talking to everyone in the game, and had a good enough standing with the majority that they were willing to keep me in the game as an inactive prevoter than y’all. 2. Gary I never went and said anything about you to anyone. Given that, I didn’t trust you as a vote cause I associated you as a number with Adam zeke and Ryan. 3. Brian I messaged Jeff and asked him to put you in if I couldn’t get WiFi on Monday, cause I felt bad how you went. Prior to the merge I figured I would have WiFi on the cruise and could play but I quickly found out that wasn’t the case. If I knew I would have quit before. People just didn’t like the idea of you rejoining the game, so I prevoted and hoped I would stay. 4 my connection issues early game were shared by a lot of people as the cookies or whatever in browser was blocking people from viewing chat. But this being my first forum survivor I wasn’t used to it and how to fix it. So I don’t think it’s right for you all to get all pissed at me for that.


In the end, I had a blast playing with all of you, and I really would have been happy moving forward with any of you in the game. You may not respect me, but I loved everyone in this game, and the game itself. Shit talk me and my game all you want. I can take it. I think I played a good one and that’s all that matters. Hopefully I can come back again if Jeff views my game the same, and realizes that most of this was out of my control.

I’ll be back Sunday afternoon if you all want to yell at me more then

Jim, nothing personal. If you weren't the one talking to Dale I wouldn't be surprised. But it was an unfortunate coincidence that the exact things I said to you (which were just repeats of what you told me) are what Dale said he believed about me.

My belief that you were a goat had everything to do with people's perceptions of your gameplay and your inactivity. Regardless of whether people truly believed what they told me about you is not something I can know. I can only tell you that I was told you were unreliable and untrustworthy by EVERYONE. The way you approached me around the second swap and merge affirmed that perception. I dont think anybody in the game had enough respect for you to vote for you at the end. I could easily be wrong. I only have my own perception anf what I was told by others in order to make judgements.

Glad you've arrived at ponderosa and I look forward to soaking in the rest of the game with you.

[Gary]

Hey Joaq, Sorry to see you so soon. Was hoping you'd make it to the finals!

Any idea who voted for you and what happened?

[Joaquin]

Ah man, I knew exactly what happened but was counting on a few people too many people not to be stupid before I played my idol. Oh well. I one clued that shit on Lucayan it was pretty dope.

The bloc voting together is Danni-Lydia-Chrissy-Caryn-Drew and kind of Lucy who's floating in the middle. I can answer any game questions you guys want. Also, my apologies Gary I totally led the charge to get you out but you were a huge stabilizing force against me and I knew you were never gonna work with me even if i wanted to

[Gary]

Ah man, I knew exactly what happened but was counting on a few people too many people not to be stupid before I played my idol. Oh well. I one clued that shit on Lucayan it was pretty dope.

The bloc voting together is Danni-Lydia-Chrissy-Caryn-Drew and kind of Lucy who's floating in the middle. I can answer any game questions you guys want. Also, my apologies Gary I totally led the charge to get you out but you were a huge stabilizing force against me and I knew you were never gonna work with me even if i wanted to

Nice! I'm really happy those 5 are together.

Nah, you had to be against me. I was all in on trying to break up the Lucayan vets. I was willing to work with y'all though, I was trying to get Danni and Lydia to trust me again, but they were pretty poisoned on Ryan. Like I said after tribal, I didn't really know how to get out of the middle there. Maybe next time.

[Gary]

Ah man, I knew exactly what happened but was counting on a few people too many people not to be stupid before I played my idol. Oh well. I one clued that shit on Lucayan it was pretty dope.

The bloc voting together is Danni-Lydia-Chrissy-Caryn-Drew and kind of Lucy who's floating in the middle. I can answer any game questions you guys want. Also, my apologies Gary I totally led the charge to get you out but you were a huge stabilizing force against me and I knew you were never gonna work with me even if i wanted to

Did you come to Adam and Zeke or did they approach y'all about flipping on Ryan and I?

[Joaquin]

Ah man, I knew exactly what happened but was counting on a few people too many people not to be stupid before I played my idol. Oh well. I one clued that shit on Lucayan it was pretty dope.

The bloc voting together is Danni-Lydia-Chrissy-Caryn-Drew and kind of Lucy who's floating in the middle. I can answer any game questions you guys want. Also, my apologies Gary I totally led the charge to get you out but you were a huge stabilizing force against me and I knew you were never gonna work with me even if i wanted to

Did you come to Adam and Zeke or did they approach y'all about flipping on Ryan and I?

Lucy pulled Adam and Zeke over. I socialized well with them at the beginning of the merge which helped, but when I initially asked to boot you/Ryan they said no. Wasn't till Lucy got them that they were with us.

I did not tell Danni about the you vote, at the time we thought you had an idol and I thought she would have tipped you. The vets have been anything but unified since we entered the game and I'm kinda shocked people thought we were.

You'll see in a confessional later I had a dream alliance of You/Me/Danni/Dale/Drew during premerge but clearly was not meant to be.

[Gary]

Ah man, I knew exactly what happened but was counting on a few people too many people not to be stupid before I played my idol. Oh well. I one clued that shit on Lucayan it was pretty dope.

The bloc voting together is Danni-Lydia-Chrissy-Caryn-Drew and kind of Lucy who's floating in the middle. I can answer any game questions you guys want. Also, my apologies Gary I totally led the charge to get you out but you were a huge stabilizing force against me and I knew you were never gonna work with me even if i wanted to

Did you come to Adam and Zeke or did they approach y'all about flipping on Ryan and I?

Lucy pulled Adam and Zeke over. I socialized well with them at the beginning of the merge which helped, but when I initially asked to boot you/Ryan they said no. Wasn't till Lucy got them that they were with us.

I did not tell Danni about the you vote, at the time we thought you had an idol and I thought she would have tipped you. The vets have been anything but unified since we entered the game and I'm kinda shocked people thought we were.

You'll see in a confessional later I had a dream alliance of You/Me/Danni/Dale/Drew during premerge but clearly was not meant to be.

Holy Shit Lucy! What a bitch! Proud of her, but that makes some sense in hindsight. Didn't think she was playing me that hard. I didn't think I had her vote, but I thought she was nearer to me.

I didn't think Danni knew, that's good to hear. That's funny you thought I had an Idol cuz Drew knew where the idol was. Ryan had it.

I would not have loved that alliance, Dale didn't speak to me at all on refuge and hardly on the merge tribe until he all but told me I was going. Basically I was happy he became the vote from the people I thought I had. But I really didn't care which of Dale/Joaq/Caryn we went for first. It was all moot though since Adam and Zeke were lost sheep.

[Joaquin]

Did you come to Adam and Zeke or did they approach y'all about flipping on Ryan and I?

Lucy pulled Adam and Zeke over. I socialized well with them at the beginning of the merge which helped, but when I initially asked to boot you/Ryan they said no. Wasn't till Lucy got them that they were with us.

I did not tell Danni about the you vote, at the time we thought you had an idol and I thought she would have tipped you. The vets have been anything but unified since we entered the game and I'm kinda shocked people thought we were.

You'll see in a confessional later I had a dream alliance of You/Me/Danni/Dale/Drew during premerge but clearly was not meant to be.

Holy Shit Lucy! What a bitch! Proud of her, but that makes some sense in hindsight. Didn't think she was playing me that hard. I didn't think I had her vote, but I thought she was nearer to me.

I didn't think Danni knew, that's good to hear. That's funny you thought I had an Idol cuz Drew knew where the idol was. Ryan had it.

I would not have loved that alliance, Dale didn't speak to me at all on refuge and hardly on the merge tribe until he all but told me I was going. Basically I was happy he became the vote from the people I thought I had. But I really didn't care which of Dale/Joaq/Caryn we went for first. It was all moot though since Adam and Zeke were lost sheep.

Ryan had the idol and went out with it...?

[Gary]

I fucking knew you did, you bastard! You just didn't play it because it's delaying the inevitable?

Also was it Horatio Nelson and after which clue did you find it?

I didn't play it cause yea I felt like if I did play it, my position wasn't in any better of a position. If I didn't play it, there was the possibility that everyone's been lying about the vote to try and get me to play it, and if that was the case and I lived, no one on Earth would think I had it anymore no regrets.

The password was BlackRockWreck. I think that's another name for the Trouvadore? Yea it seemed so obvious I'm surprised I didn't get it earlier, but I got it late in the night the 3rd clue was posted. Last season when I found the idol I didn't tell anyone about it and it really bit me in the butt when I played it at the merge vote, negating 0 votes lol. So I told Drew this time to switch up my game. I wanted to play a more loyal game and he was my number 1 at the time. I had a feeling he told everyone about it though cause they were all super adamant about me having it. That's what really sucks, no one really had my back this game UGH

I played so bad, but at the same time, I feel like there was a lot out of my control. Like those vets poisoning Danni and Lydia and Adam and Zeke and what not. I feel like your downfall Gary was being attached to me, and for that I'm sorry You would have killed this game if it wasn't for me!

YUP! two idols wasted thus far. only merge idol left. they should rehide one.

[Joaquin]

Hilarious. Drew didn't even tell me about Ryan's idol.

I just got through this thread - yes Brian you were next to go on Lucayan should we have "lost" the prisoner's dilemma challenge. I was being fed every word you said lol

Ryan - I did genuinely want to keep you around, it would have been good for my game. The problem was that when you came to me you weren't desperate to work with me you sounded desperate to work with ANYONE and that scared me, you were still tossing out Dale and my names while offering to work with us so I felt like I couldn't tell you a true shake on how things were.

[Gary]

Ah man, I knew exactly what happened but was counting on a few people too many people not to be stupid before I played my idol. Oh well. I one clued that shit on Lucayan it was pretty dope.

The bloc voting together is Danni-Lydia-Chrissy-Caryn-Drew and kind of Lucy who's floating in the middle. I can answer any game questions you guys want. Also, my apologies Gary I totally led the charge to get you out but you were a huge stabilizing force against me and I knew you were never gonna work with me even if i wanted to

Did you come to Adam and Zeke or did they approach y'all about flipping on Ryan and I?

Lucy pulled Adam and Zeke over. I socialized well with them at the beginning of the merge which helped, but when I initially asked to boot you/Ryan they said no. Wasn't till Lucy got them that they were with us.

I did not tell Danni about the you vote, at the time we thought you had an idol and I thought she would have tipped you. The vets have been anything but unified since we entered the game and I'm kinda shocked people thought we were.

You'll see in a confessional later I had a dream alliance of You/Me/Danni/Dale/Drew during premerge but clearly was not meant to be.

Obviously there's an initial assumption that you're all working together. Just from sheer familiarity. Particularly I was assuming you Dale and Drew were always gonna share info. But the more I talked to y'all the more I thought you were together because you all just always pitched the exact same shit to me. Like it was uncanny. I believe the word I used to describe it was "transparent." The only two who ever said a vets name were Chrissy and Ryan. So I guess y'all just spend too much time together and you've adopted each other's mannerisms.

[Ryan]

Hilarious. Drew didn't even tell me about Ryan's idol.

I just got through this thread - yes Brian you were next to go on Lucayan should we have "lost" the prisoner's dilemma challenge. I was being fed every word you said lol

Ryan - I did genuinely want to keep you around, it would have been good for my game. The problem was that when you came to me you weren't desperate to work with me you sounded desperate to work with ANYONE and that scared me, you were still tossing out Dale and my names while offering to work with us so I felt like I couldn't tell you a true shake on how things were.

Welcome aboard, sir! You owe me a case of beer. How'd you feel about your game, Joaq? Any regrets, any high points, low points? We're you shocked to be voted out?

I know I didn't go about it the right way and I definitely felt like as soon as I said "I'll work with anyone willing to work with me" I might be screwing it, but I figured you'd look past my terrible way of coming across and saw that we needed each other. I was telling you those 6 were going to flip on you! My goal that last tribal was to get you, me, Dale, Zeke, Adam, and one of Drew/Caryn/Lucy to vote Danni/Chrissy. I know it's not entirely your fault cause obviously how can you trust someone that was vocally against you.

But I wasn't gunning for you/Dale on the last vote. Chrissy and Drew and Lydia all told me they'd vote Dale or Caryn. I was just going along with their plans at that point. Chrissy and Danni are the real people I wanted out.

Yea two idols out back to back! Drew was the one that told me before that last challenge on Refuge that y'all were all about to vote me out, so he was the only one I trusted at that point. And when we swapped together I definitely felt like it was Drew/Gary/Myself as a tight 3. So I told Drew about my idol lol. I know he never really had my back as much as I expected him to though. Did you tell anyone about yours? Who does everyone think has the Taino idol lol

[Joaquin]

Hilarious. Drew didn't even tell me about Ryan's idol.

I just got through this thread - yes Brian you were next to go on Lucayan should we have "lost" the prisoner's dilemma challenge. I was being fed every word you said lol

Ryan - I did genuinely want to keep you around, it would have been good for my game. The problem was that when you came to me you weren't desperate to work with me you sounded desperate to work with ANYONE and that scared me, you were still tossing out Dale and my names while offering to work with us so I felt like I couldn't tell you a true shake on how things were.

Welcome aboard, sir! You owe me a case of beer. How'd you feel about your game, Joaq? Any regrets, any high points, low points? We're you shocked to be voted out?

I know I didn't go about it the right way and I definitely felt like as soon as I said "I'll work with anyone willing to work with me" I might be screwing it, but I figured you'd look past my terrible way of coming across and saw that we needed each other. I was telling you those 6 were going to flip on you! My goal that last tribal was to get you, me, Dale, Zeke, Adam, and one of Drew/Caryn/Lucy to vote Danni/Chrissy. I know it's not entirely your fault cause obviously how can you trust someone that was vocally against you.

But I wasn't gunning for you/Dale on the last vote. Chrissy and Drew and Lydia all told me they'd vote Dale or Caryn. I was just going along with their plans at that point. Chrissy and Danni are the real people I wanted out.

Yea two idols out back to back! Drew was the one that told me before that last challenge on Refuge that y'all were all about to vote me out, so he was the only one I trusted at that point. And when we swapped together I definitely felt like it was Drew/Gary/Myself as a tight 3. So I told Drew about my idol lol. I know he never really had my back as much as I expected him to though. Did you tell anyone about yours? Who does everyone think has the Taino idol lol

Heading off to vacation for a bit here so last thoughts for a bit - but I owe you one Ryan.

We'll chat post-season I'll Drizly you a six-pack.

Regrets - Voting Nick out at the Refuge vote had a huge cascade effect but I think it made the season more interesting for the better. Obviously if I had played the idol tonight that would have been better lol. And the way it's looking by Drew getting duped in the forums (if that's true), then tonight would have been a huge vote, could have kept Adam+Zeke+Drew+Dale for a 5 majority next vote.

And I told wayyy too many people about the idol. Dale, Danni, Drew, Lucy.

Your plan wouldn't have worked because - Lucy. She's that deep in with people. Up until tonight Zeke and Adam were basically mindlessly following her. She was in with me/Dale/Drew, she's clearly in this other majority alliance now. Her game is just so impressive to me.

[Ryan]

I'm expecting the Zeke/Adam/Lucy trio will become the big target here soon, just cause it's hard to ignore. But I think you're right, Lucy will probably not be the one picked off. I see her making a deep run.

[Ryan]

It's funny that the only regret I've been thinking about is not trying to make a big move when Gary left. I was thinking about giving immunity necklace to Adam to potentially negate a couple votes, then tell everyone I was gonna play an idol on myself as if I thought everyone would do that once I gave up immunity, but actually play it on Gary. But SO many things had to go perfect and I didn't know for sure that Gary was getting votes so it's all hindsight lol.

[Gary]

Welcome Dale! thanks for putting on a show on the way out. Been dying for some moves, even fake ones are better than nothing!

I'm surprised so many people came together for that vote. I figured there were bigger targets out there people would still be trying to get over. What happened?

[Dale]

Hey guys. Haven't read any of this yet, will tonight but what I can tell you is Drew claims that he didn't know about either blindside, but everyone told me that Drew knew about Joaq being blindsided a few minutes before tribal.

He said Joaq lying to him cost Joaq the game (becasue we told him to vote Zeke) but I don't really know if I believe him. There's no way you're in the middle and don't get told about EITHER blindside. He knew and he could have made it 5-5 or told Joaq to play the idol. Which pisses me off, because he swore up and down to me after that he would never flip on us. And he gave me the second clue, but I suck at idol hunting lol.

[Dale]

Caryn flipped because Lucy blabbed to everyone about your idol, Joaq. Caryn said she felt on the bottom after that and doesn't feel on the bottom with her new crew.

[Dale]

Drew is likely next.